Bev,
I for one and behind ya all the way!!!! Your time, effort, and work has made beagling all the more fun for thousands of people and is greatly appreciated by the majority.
If there is ever anything I can do to help ya out just email or pm me and I will do the best I can.
Who wants the old board back?
Moderators: Pike Ridge Beagles, Aaron Bartlett
Bev,
I am happy with the changes. It makes no sense for me to post under multiple names or to try to make an issue more than it is, or to take potshots at folks. This board is more productive without petty bickering. Or anonimous attacks.
We all have the right to disagree, lets just make sure everyone knows who they are really talking too. Civil disagreement and discourse are good. I come here to learn from evreyone, and to share my experiences not to fight with unknown entities.
Joe Diebold
I am happy with the changes. It makes no sense for me to post under multiple names or to try to make an issue more than it is, or to take potshots at folks. This board is more productive without petty bickering. Or anonimous attacks.
We all have the right to disagree, lets just make sure everyone knows who they are really talking too. Civil disagreement and discourse are good. I come here to learn from evreyone, and to share my experiences not to fight with unknown entities.
Joe Diebold
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leave the board as it is now where you must be logged in. if some of the "GUESTS" dont like it, why dont they get their checkbook out and start their own GUEST MESSAGE BOARD where they can post all the junk you want. if you got to hide behind a guest post, then you really must not have much to contribute.
I came onto this board to enjoy the sharing of knowledge and experiances from fellow beaglers. I have never felt the need to hide behind a post under the auspices of a guest. I have and always will respect and follow whatever rules are placed on the use of someone elses property. That applies to this board as well as any property that I am allowed to enjoy that someone else has put the blood, sweat and tears into. I don't know why someone would think that they have the right to dictate how another person administers their property. If you want to dictate then GET AND PAY FOR your own site and until that time BEV is the BOSS whether you like it or not. It appears to me that there are several folks on here with numerous posts that are sharing a wealth of information with others but then there are some with numerous posts that share absolutely NOTHING of any value but sure utilize BEV's generosity when it comes to selling dogs. As a matter of fact I believe they are banned from other boards which leads me to believe there may be a root cause of desention. I'm not mentioning any names but I doubt I need to.
Bev, THANK YOU for providing a site that is of great pleasure to those of us who just like to share our lifes experiences with our hounds so that it may be of some benifit to someone else..young or old. I believe that those of us who are truely here to share don't care WHAT your policy may be to participate in this forum and I for one will continue to visit this forum as well as subscribe to your magazine and abide by whatever rules that need be in order to enjoy them. THANK YOU
Bev, THANK YOU for providing a site that is of great pleasure to those of us who just like to share our lifes experiences with our hounds so that it may be of some benifit to someone else..young or old. I believe that those of us who are truely here to share don't care WHAT your policy may be to participate in this forum and I for one will continue to visit this forum as well as subscribe to your magazine and abide by whatever rules that need be in order to enjoy them. THANK YOU
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blackdirt beagles
good post warddog. im a moderator on "another" board and yes there is 2 guys (no names of course) that come to mind that are banned that seem to post quite often on this board and think that anything goes. i think this was a good move to get rid of the GUESTS. i dont think they will really be missed much.
im sure people think some of my ideas are incredibly stupid
and at times i think the same of others, but at least if i say something, everyone knows it was me and i mean no hard feelings by what i say.
im sure people think some of my ideas are incredibly stupid
and at times i think the same of others, but at least if i say something, everyone knows it was me and i mean no hard feelings by what i say.
Let it stand.If anyone has something worth saying they won't mind
signing-in.I'm glad to see the change for one.These people who live on these message boards can't have hound or they never run them cause they are always on here.Get a life,be proud of your name.It's really the only thing that yours!!
signing-in.I'm glad to see the change for one.These people who live on these message boards can't have hound or they never run them cause they are always on here.Get a life,be proud of your name.It's really the only thing that yours!!
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Home of the tried and true Patch Hound! "Where honesty and
good hounds are a family tradition"
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bev,all i got to say is thanks,when this all started we where looking for some place to go,you came out with the new mag.aND A HAVE EVERY COPY FROM EVERY MONTH,and i will keep getting it,i have listed two litters of pups on this board and sold everyone of them for free,i have made so friends and that is what this is all about.anyone that has been with you from the start can really see what you have done,right or wrong you have the best mag,and board their is,myself i liked the guess post but none of them where aimed at me after realy thinking about it maybe it wont so funny to some,now to the point DO WHAT YOU THINK IS BEST,
THANKS WVRABBITHUNTER
FRANK THOMPSON
THANKS WVRABBITHUNTER
FRANK THOMPSON
I stopped by here and saw this.
I have done like S.R. Patch suggested. Stepped out, got a good breath of fresh air and saw what really makes the world go around.
I enjoy this board, I have from the first time I found it. I've made some very good friends from this board and RHO. I never minded "guests" at all until they seemed to be doing nothing, but waiting for someone to jump onto. I don't mind debate over just about any subject, but I at least like to know I am debating with a certain person and not three people that are actually one in the same.
I think the move will be most beneficial to the board and to the amount of moderating that has to be done.
I have done like S.R. Patch suggested. Stepped out, got a good breath of fresh air and saw what really makes the world go around.
I enjoy this board, I have from the first time I found it. I've made some very good friends from this board and RHO. I never minded "guests" at all until they seemed to be doing nothing, but waiting for someone to jump onto. I don't mind debate over just about any subject, but I at least like to know I am debating with a certain person and not three people that are actually one in the same.
I think the move will be most beneficial to the board and to the amount of moderating that has to be done.
Coyote problems? Can't fix it with western tactics. Here ya go. http://www.easterncoyotes.com/
You can find me and other Prostaff here. http://www.easterncoyotes.com/prostaff
You can find me and other Prostaff here. http://www.easterncoyotes.com/prostaff
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Redtick wrote:
Chris, take this from a very active coonhound breeder, AKC has much better leadership in it's coonhound division than UKC has. I look for AKC to make a big impact in the next couple of years. And, I am not a big AKC fan.
Chris wrote;
I heard that Steve Fielder jumped from UKC to PKC, and now to AKC. From what I understand he's behind the movement of AKC accepting UKC's registration of coon hounds for $1. So much for a closed registry. AKC seems to be trying to make some extra dough from coon hounds. I've got nothing against the so-called 'non-profit' making more money, but as soon as they get away from their niche as a 'closed' registry they're not going to be 'the' registry any more and folks will have zero reason to use them and not other 'open' registries that are doing a better job currently.
I really hope UKC continues to grow and gets to the point of replacing AKC as the major Beagle registry. I have no doubt that we'd all be better off for it. They've got a ways to go, but if AKC starts this opening up of the registrations then UKC will gain ground a lot more quickly, I think. I've seen UKC registration papers, and they put AKC's to shame as far as quality goes. I also heard that they automatically keep track of championship points and such, where AKC leaves it to the dog owner to keep track of and submit.
AKC hasn't done much for us gundog owners, and I think their monopolistic days are numbered.
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UKC is a far superior registry overall than AKC in my book, especially for owners of hunting dogs. JMHO, but AKC will never begin to touch the success UKC continues to have with its coonhound program - regardless of their efforts to recruit and court the owners of coonhounds from UKC.
For over a hundred years AKC didn't even recognize 4 of the 6 different breeds of coonhounds. Now all of a sudden it's "come on in - registration is practically free?" Why the big change of heart?
AKC has always been lagging behind UKC as far as progress is concerned. I bet many don't know that it was UKC who first utilized DNA in the identification of dogs. AKC got around to it sometime later, but they would like for you to think it was their baby. Remember when AKC was "converting" their computers systems over and we were waiting a long time for papers? They were just then getting around to integrating performance records with pedigrees. UKC had been doing it for years and years. Now AKC wants 6 breeds of coonhounds instead of only 2.... Seems to me they are always slotted up behind UKC.
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Redtick wrote:
Chris, take this from a very active coonhound breeder, AKC has much better leadership in it's coonhound division than UKC has. I look for AKC to make a big impact in the next couple of years. And, I am not a big AKC fan.
Bev wrote;
I hope the current AKC coonhound leadership does a better job with coonhounds than it did with PKC Beagles. That program tanked and left a lot of people holding the bag. Oh well, such is life. At least now you will have AKC papers on your Englishes. They were one of the coonhound breeds AKC said didn't exist 60 days ago.
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Now, here are two powerful web Administrators giving their opinions on a topic. Now say, I am in disagreement with their opinions but I don't want the wrath of them or their following to come down on me. As a guest, I could give a different view and my reasons, without drawing a lynch-mob to my door( believe me, I've learned you don't go into someones house and say you don't like their curtains...lol). Some people actually take speaking against one of status on these boards as an attack.
I don't like guest that come in just to muddy things up but, there are guest that have contributed valued information, and it is for these I argue.
Bev, I have no control on this board. Like everyone else, I give cause, reason and say please like everyone else and hope you see my point.
Hillbilly,
Yes, I've been here awhile and this board has always been one of my favourites. There are 3 I try to keep up on. I've enjoyed the different colours each has had to offer and it's that variety that made each unique and interesting.
I applaud your fortitude of continued education.
A common reply has become, "well, you can just go somewhere else". That is true, if everyone likes pink curtains and I don't, then it's time to move on, but just like beagle fads, sometimes it's good to hear criticism when we become blind. But, if we all like pink or are told to go away if we don't, who will risk themselves to tell us, we should have "burber" instead of green shag carpet.
Not all guest are bad, I guess I put more value on the good ones and just over look the bad. Many here are only seeing the bad and are content to loose the good to keep out the bad. That is the choice of those in control of these boards.
I hope we can all drink from the same fountain and learn from the same school and never close our eyes to all the colours around us...Patch
Chris
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 9:29 am Post subject:
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Redtick wrote:
Chris, take this from a very active coonhound breeder, AKC has much better leadership in it's coonhound division than UKC has. I look for AKC to make a big impact in the next couple of years. And, I am not a big AKC fan.
Chris wrote;
I heard that Steve Fielder jumped from UKC to PKC, and now to AKC. From what I understand he's behind the movement of AKC accepting UKC's registration of coon hounds for $1. So much for a closed registry. AKC seems to be trying to make some extra dough from coon hounds. I've got nothing against the so-called 'non-profit' making more money, but as soon as they get away from their niche as a 'closed' registry they're not going to be 'the' registry any more and folks will have zero reason to use them and not other 'open' registries that are doing a better job currently.
I really hope UKC continues to grow and gets to the point of replacing AKC as the major Beagle registry. I have no doubt that we'd all be better off for it. They've got a ways to go, but if AKC starts this opening up of the registrations then UKC will gain ground a lot more quickly, I think. I've seen UKC registration papers, and they put AKC's to shame as far as quality goes. I also heard that they automatically keep track of championship points and such, where AKC leaves it to the dog owner to keep track of and submit.
AKC hasn't done much for us gundog owners, and I think their monopolistic days are numbered.
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UKC is a far superior registry overall than AKC in my book, especially for owners of hunting dogs. JMHO, but AKC will never begin to touch the success UKC continues to have with its coonhound program - regardless of their efforts to recruit and court the owners of coonhounds from UKC.
For over a hundred years AKC didn't even recognize 4 of the 6 different breeds of coonhounds. Now all of a sudden it's "come on in - registration is practically free?" Why the big change of heart?
AKC has always been lagging behind UKC as far as progress is concerned. I bet many don't know that it was UKC who first utilized DNA in the identification of dogs. AKC got around to it sometime later, but they would like for you to think it was their baby. Remember when AKC was "converting" their computers systems over and we were waiting a long time for papers? They were just then getting around to integrating performance records with pedigrees. UKC had been doing it for years and years. Now AKC wants 6 breeds of coonhounds instead of only 2.... Seems to me they are always slotted up behind UKC.
Quote:
Redtick wrote:
Chris, take this from a very active coonhound breeder, AKC has much better leadership in it's coonhound division than UKC has. I look for AKC to make a big impact in the next couple of years. And, I am not a big AKC fan.
Bev wrote;
I hope the current AKC coonhound leadership does a better job with coonhounds than it did with PKC Beagles. That program tanked and left a lot of people holding the bag. Oh well, such is life. At least now you will have AKC papers on your Englishes. They were one of the coonhound breeds AKC said didn't exist 60 days ago.
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Now, here are two powerful web Administrators giving their opinions on a topic. Now say, I am in disagreement with their opinions but I don't want the wrath of them or their following to come down on me. As a guest, I could give a different view and my reasons, without drawing a lynch-mob to my door( believe me, I've learned you don't go into someones house and say you don't like their curtains...lol). Some people actually take speaking against one of status on these boards as an attack.
I don't like guest that come in just to muddy things up but, there are guest that have contributed valued information, and it is for these I argue.
Bev, I have no control on this board. Like everyone else, I give cause, reason and say please like everyone else and hope you see my point.
Hillbilly,
Yes, I've been here awhile and this board has always been one of my favourites. There are 3 I try to keep up on. I've enjoyed the different colours each has had to offer and it's that variety that made each unique and interesting.
I applaud your fortitude of continued education.
A common reply has become, "well, you can just go somewhere else". That is true, if everyone likes pink curtains and I don't, then it's time to move on, but just like beagle fads, sometimes it's good to hear criticism when we become blind. But, if we all like pink or are told to go away if we don't, who will risk themselves to tell us, we should have "burber" instead of green shag carpet.
Not all guest are bad, I guess I put more value on the good ones and just over look the bad. Many here are only seeing the bad and are content to loose the good to keep out the bad. That is the choice of those in control of these boards.
I hope we can all drink from the same fountain and learn from the same school and never close our eyes to all the colours around us...Patch
Mr. S.R. PatchS.R.Patch wrote:
Now, here are two powerful web Administrators giving their opinions on a topic. Now say, I am in disagreement with their opinions but I don't want the wrath of them or their following to come down on me. As a guest, I could give a different view and my reasons, without drawing a lynch-mob to my door( believe me, I've learned you don't go into someones house and say you don't like their curtains...lol). Some people actually take speaking against one of status on these boards as an attack.
...Patch
With all do respect to you sir, I just don't see it that way. Even when I blew my cool on here a few weeks ago, the post still stayed. I've never had any run in with Beverly, but I have Chris. He and I debated and vehemently disagreed on a thread back in the summer, but my post wasn't pulled.
We didn't get into name calling or anything, but I guarantee you, we were not seeing eye to eye at all.
I know Chris gets rid of some posts, but it's usually when they are getting way off topic or no longer fit the criteria he was intending for them. I don't always agree with his reasons for doing so, but it's not my board.
Same with this board.
As far as them being "powerful web Administrators", what does that matter. The worst that can be done to a person is to be banned from a board. That usually only happens when you start flaming someone bad.
Even if you get kicked off, you can still read the info. and learn from it.
The Lord tells us to be no respector of persons, but we should also be as wise as a serpent and as harmless as a dove. Now I know I don't fit those categories very well sometimes, which makes me flesh and bone, such as I was made. However, I won't start bashing someone especially from the shadows which is exactly what some have done. Goodness, there was one guy on here that would post and then bash himself, posting under a different name.
I just don't understand it. If you have something worth saying, then why isn't it good enough to put your name on it. If it's not tasteful enough or worthy enough to be said next to your name, then that's probably a good indicator that it wasn't worth saying anyway.
I'm no control freak by any means. I know that I can't draw my next breath without the Lord's grace, so what am I really in control of? Nothing.
I have the utmost respect for you S.R. as well as many others on here, because I believe many of you are very good houndsman and good and decent people, but I also know that deeds that are done in the dark are usually deeds that shouldn't be done.
Good day to each of you and God bless.
Coyote problems? Can't fix it with western tactics. Here ya go. http://www.easterncoyotes.com/
You can find me and other Prostaff here. http://www.easterncoyotes.com/prostaff
You can find me and other Prostaff here. http://www.easterncoyotes.com/prostaff
Patch, why would you think my wrath would come down on you for disagreeing with my opinion? Opinions are just that. In fact, with that post, I acknowledged that others may disagree when I started it out with "JMHO". That's just what is was - my humble opinion - I wasn't stating it as an undisputable fact. You're not giving me enough credit here.....or you're giving me too much credit; I haven't figured out which.
Debating and degrading are such similar words, but with such different meanings. I've never been against debating....just degrading. Nobody needs it. We come to the boards in our down time to socialize and learn. We can joke around and have humor without allowing strangers to get ugly and take potshots. All I can say is own your opinions and don't be so afraid of with whom you might disagree. This isn't cancer here. It's a beagle board, and I don't think Chris or myself would ban anyone or deliver "wrath" upon anyone merely for disagreeing with our opinions.
Debating and degrading are such similar words, but with such different meanings. I've never been against debating....just degrading. Nobody needs it. We come to the boards in our down time to socialize and learn. We can joke around and have humor without allowing strangers to get ugly and take potshots. All I can say is own your opinions and don't be so afraid of with whom you might disagree. This isn't cancer here. It's a beagle board, and I don't think Chris or myself would ban anyone or deliver "wrath" upon anyone merely for disagreeing with our opinions.
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S.R.Patch,
Please understand that the only reason for my mentioning my busy schedule, including the fact that I am back in school was to make the point that just because someone is active on this site (and others) does not equal having "no life". The fact of the matter is that we all have lives and stories to tell. I for one have been married twenty six years to the same woman, had three beautiful children, lost my eldest to illness, have two in college that are respected by those in the community, school and by peers. I have been a N.Y State certified welder, Pipe fitter, HVAC technician, Business owner (resturant), worked my way from a factory machine operator on the floor through every stage of the process till I ended up as a Quality Control supervisor. I became a nurse to care for my eldest son and continued on after he was gone. I currently work taking care of children with severe mental problems which come as a result (in most cases) of abuse the likes of which rival any form of torture any third world nation hands out. I could go on but will not! I am sure that many here including you Patch have equally interesting backgrounds and that is why I come to these sites. In addition to my "real world" friends I enjoy having made on-line friends and as I mentioned even to the point of meeting them in person to run hounds or just visit. I do not visit these sites because I have no life. I come here because I have chosen to make it part of my life. A pen pal sort of thing I guess you might say. Maybe it is because of the twists and turns my life has taken over the years that I so oppose what I view as "meaness" and have always sided with the "underdogs". I have always hated a bully. I used to get paid a quarter a week from a lady down my street to walk her son to school to prevent him from getting picked on and always ended up spending the money on him at the corner candy store.
The guest thing just struck a bag chord with me because it always seems that when I read a post from "GUEST" it is a smart mouthed, nasty comment designed to bring discomfort to someone else. What one person finds funny can often be inappropriate to another and it seems this type of humor is the type that is always hidden behind the "GUEST" designation. If I make a post and disagree with someone (as I have in the past) I will either make my point and support it with some explanation, agree to disagree in some cases or as scary as this is, find out that I myself am wrong and be man enough to admit it. It is interesting how these two year old posts are turning up lately! I felt I myself was taken to task over one within the past day or two and again looked it over and made my stand, which was unchanged. The outcome was good and there are are no bad feelings between myself and the other party. Respect is the key! Sorry to get long winded Patch and maybe this would have been better to send as a personal message but I wanted to let you know I was not fishing for a compliment, although I thank you for the one you extended. Don't let this guest issue be the deal breaker. Say what you need to say, stand firm if you feel your right and if the plug ever does get pulled on you for some reason ( can't believe it would) at least everyone will know who stood where.
Best wishes,
NYH...................................I'm done with this topic
Please understand that the only reason for my mentioning my busy schedule, including the fact that I am back in school was to make the point that just because someone is active on this site (and others) does not equal having "no life". The fact of the matter is that we all have lives and stories to tell. I for one have been married twenty six years to the same woman, had three beautiful children, lost my eldest to illness, have two in college that are respected by those in the community, school and by peers. I have been a N.Y State certified welder, Pipe fitter, HVAC technician, Business owner (resturant), worked my way from a factory machine operator on the floor through every stage of the process till I ended up as a Quality Control supervisor. I became a nurse to care for my eldest son and continued on after he was gone. I currently work taking care of children with severe mental problems which come as a result (in most cases) of abuse the likes of which rival any form of torture any third world nation hands out. I could go on but will not! I am sure that many here including you Patch have equally interesting backgrounds and that is why I come to these sites. In addition to my "real world" friends I enjoy having made on-line friends and as I mentioned even to the point of meeting them in person to run hounds or just visit. I do not visit these sites because I have no life. I come here because I have chosen to make it part of my life. A pen pal sort of thing I guess you might say. Maybe it is because of the twists and turns my life has taken over the years that I so oppose what I view as "meaness" and have always sided with the "underdogs". I have always hated a bully. I used to get paid a quarter a week from a lady down my street to walk her son to school to prevent him from getting picked on and always ended up spending the money on him at the corner candy store.
The guest thing just struck a bag chord with me because it always seems that when I read a post from "GUEST" it is a smart mouthed, nasty comment designed to bring discomfort to someone else. What one person finds funny can often be inappropriate to another and it seems this type of humor is the type that is always hidden behind the "GUEST" designation. If I make a post and disagree with someone (as I have in the past) I will either make my point and support it with some explanation, agree to disagree in some cases or as scary as this is, find out that I myself am wrong and be man enough to admit it. It is interesting how these two year old posts are turning up lately! I felt I myself was taken to task over one within the past day or two and again looked it over and made my stand, which was unchanged. The outcome was good and there are are no bad feelings between myself and the other party. Respect is the key! Sorry to get long winded Patch and maybe this would have been better to send as a personal message but I wanted to let you know I was not fishing for a compliment, although I thank you for the one you extended. Don't let this guest issue be the deal breaker. Say what you need to say, stand firm if you feel your right and if the plug ever does get pulled on you for some reason ( can't believe it would) at least everyone will know who stood where. Best wishes,
NYH...................................I'm done with this topic
When my life on earth is ended....this is all I'm gonna say...Lord I've been a hard working pilgrim on the way!
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you wont get banned on any of chris' boards for having a different opinion than his. if you are incredible ignorant and harrass others or are very vulgar, then yes, you would need to worry. and if you state your opinion and others attack it "just for fun", then they would be the ones looking for a new board. yes chris (and myself) delete a lot of posts that get offtopic. thats chris' rules that are easy for everyone to view and understand.
and i am guilty of having a lot of time to be on these boards. thats why im a moderator on a couple...because i have more time than most. sorry
(not really) if some think that its bad to be on here a lot. this time of year im off work for around 3 months, so i get to run/hunt, be on here, nap, see the wife, whatever the heck i want all day long. why should i apologize for that or why should someone tell me how much time to be on here?
bottom line is if your not posting ignorant, vulgar junk you shouldnt have to worry about anything.
and i am guilty of having a lot of time to be on these boards. thats why im a moderator on a couple...because i have more time than most. sorry
(not really) if some think that its bad to be on here a lot. this time of year im off work for around 3 months, so i get to run/hunt, be on here, nap, see the wife, whatever the heck i want all day long. why should i apologize for that or why should someone tell me how much time to be on here? bottom line is if your not posting ignorant, vulgar junk you shouldnt have to worry about anything.
Ignorant= Webster- Lacking knowledge...
Well, I may be in trouble on that one...
The issue is not how much time you spend on here, but why a meaningless guest post is so unnerving to draw this much debate...
You have gotten your way, I'm just trying to make my case. If your so sure of yourself, and whats done is done, why is there so much resistance or is there doubt that banning guest really is necessary?
If you read what I copied and pasted from Chris board, you see, even though an opinion, the ignorance, contempt and slander made towards AKC.
I find Chris board to be very subjective, according to who's doing the posting... Don't take my word for it, go over to Chris board and read the post. Remember, open debate is good as long as it's controled...Patch
Well, I may be in trouble on that one...
The issue is not how much time you spend on here, but why a meaningless guest post is so unnerving to draw this much debate...
You have gotten your way, I'm just trying to make my case. If your so sure of yourself, and whats done is done, why is there so much resistance or is there doubt that banning guest really is necessary?
If you read what I copied and pasted from Chris board, you see, even though an opinion, the ignorance, contempt and slander made towards AKC.
I find Chris board to be very subjective, according to who's doing the posting... Don't take my word for it, go over to Chris board and read the post. Remember, open debate is good as long as it's controled...Patch