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Newt
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FLIP vs FLOP

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Can you believe that Paul Ryan said they have to pass the trade agreement before you see what is in it? Can you believe it? Who besides the Chamber of Commerce is wagging the dog?

Democrats kill Obama, Boehner and McConnell's trade push

House Democrats defied President Obama Friday and doomed his ambitions of a legacy-defining trade deal, undoing a carefully orchestrated chain of events that was supposed to lead to triumphant approval of fast-track trade negotiating powers.

Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi issued the final blow to Mr. Obama, taking to the floor to denounce the push for trade and saying she would kill a Democratic priority — extra assistance for workers displaced by trade agreements known as Trade Adjustment Assistance — in order to defeat the broader trade agenda.

“This is not a good deal,” she said, walking off the floor to congratulations from other Democrats who had been in suspense over whether she would side with the president.

Mr. Obama had traveled to the Capitol himself earlier in the morning to try to head off the strategy, but failed to make headway against the overwhelming opposition of liberal pressure groups.

Mrs. Pelosi insisted the vote didn’t kill trade for good, but only put the brakes on negotiations. She said she hoped Mr. Obama and Republicans would return with a better deal later.

But the chances for that are unclear.

The assistance package was defeated 302-126, which unraveled a series of planned votes including the fast-track powers, or Trade Promotion Authority, which were the key piece of the package.

Mr. Obama had hoped to use fast-track powers to conclude negotiations on the 12-nation Trans Pacific Partnership, which would unite economies around the Pacific Rim.

Without fast-track powers, however, concluding those negotiations is virtually impossible.

Free-traders had won the first round last month when the Senate voted to approve TAA and fast-track together, buoyed by just enough Democratic support.

But the House was always going to be the tougher chamber, and a real test of Mr. Obama, who has shown little ability to win his agenda in Congress and who has instead taken to trying to work around Capitol Hill.

That cost him this week, as Republicans said they didn’t trust the president to abide by the law, and Democrats signaled they didn’t trust him to be able to win a good deal for American workers in the Pacific trade deal.

It’s a great deal for Wall Street, it’s a great deal for transnational corporations, but for Main Street and workers it’s a punch to the gut,” she said.

The outcome of the vote was unclear until Mrs. Pelosi took to the floor and declared her opposition, which was a sign that she was joining the vast majority of her caucus.

Not all of her colleagues approved. Minutes earlier Rep. David Price, North Carolina Democrat, had called her strategy “devious and reckless” and had urged Democrats vote for the worker assistance package, even if, like him, they opposed the broader trade agenda.

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The gutless Kenyan can't even lead his own party.
Pelosi and the democrats love one thing more that Obama, POWER. They may be stupid but they can count. A course correction was in order to stay in front of the parade. Two elections told them that Obama was steering them over a cliff. The Liar sits in the back of the boat with the tiller, while his sheep keep getting run over the cliff.
Either that or the Democrat Party has been exposed as a bunch of Racists.

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Obabbler is such a slacker he don't know which way the the train is going.

Newt
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You are correct but neither does Boehner and Ryan. Well actually they know what they are doing. Like Bill, Hillary, Pelosi and Reid, they are feathering their nests. How much is enough

How can we believe them when they say we need free trade to sell more products and promote more jobs. In the same Bill, there is a provision, billions of dollars to compensate workers who will lose their jobs due to moving them over seas.

These same scoundrels who, a few weeks back, were complaining about the lack of respect for the Constitution, now are trying to give away their Constitutional responsibly to the Community Organizer. The guy who has done nothing positive for America and the working class.
Dumb and dumber.

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With 90 million people out of work 45 million on food stamps . What are the republican thinking if Obama for the trade bill u know its bad . I have never voted dem I will be staying home in 2016 . Now the republican are talking about saving Obama care . We need a third party in this country . :angryfire:
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As long as politicians from both parties can keep us choosing one or the other instead of voting for a person that is not affiliated with either, they will both get what they want.
They shake hands, and go off laughing at us when they play us like the fool.
How they will make fun of anyone that is not one of them running so we will not vote for an outsider.
Remember they are mostly lawyers and in real life they daily take either side in court and argue bitterly but afterward, out of your sight are best of friends and belong to the same country clubs and their children go to the same schools.
An outsider can do more harm to their conniving than anyone and stir up their behind the scenes agreements with other countries. We have come to a point where we can see the USA going downhill fast if we vote for either one. We cannot stand another 8 years of this same downhill falling so we must vote for anyone that is NOT one of them in any way.
All deals will be off and new ones made that will help us, not the politicians.

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Alabama John wrote:As long as politicians from both parties can keep us choosing one or the other instead of voting for a person that is not affiliated with either, they will both get what they want.
They shake hands, and go off laughing at us when they play us like the fool.
How they will make fun of anyone that is not one of them running so we will not vote for an outsider.
Remember they are mostly lawyers and in real life they daily take either side in court and argue bitterly but afterward, out of your sight are best of friends and belong to the same country clubs and their children go to the same schools.
An outsider can do more harm to their conniving than anyone and stir up their behind the scenes agreements with other countries. We have come to a point where we can see the USA going downhill fast if we vote for either one. We cannot stand another 8 years of this same downhill falling so we must vote for anyone that is NOT one of them in any way.
All deals will be off and new ones made that will help us, not the politicians.
Well said I think it's to late for a turn around .
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