America's best days behind her ?

[Mr.Glock]

We defeated the English. Fought a civil war. Explored and settled the untamed west.Beat the Germans twice , and the Japanese once. Now in 2015 we have 17 or 18 TRILLION in debt. Health care cost are going through the roof. Supreme Court , invents a new right, and destroy s marriage (poligamy is coming ).The 2nd amendment (a real right ) is constantly under attack. So is free speech, freedom of religion ect.Illegal aliens are taking our jobs and pushing down wages. Let's pray our next president (not Hillary ) is a true patriot,and a God fearing person. I guess Obama has fundamentaly transformed this nation, but not for the best.

[Alabama John]

Its history repeating itself.
Look at what happened to ALL the great world leaders of the past and there were many, when bad morals, drugs, greed, laziness, people too fat from having too much to eat while not working it off, got to be the main thing. Extra wide casket sales are the highest they have ever been this year.
Greece is only the beginning, wanting the rest of the world to bail them out.
Our savior is our military. It is the greatest in the world which is just like it was with Athens and Rome so it will take longer for the USA to go down since other countries fear what we can do to them if they don't help with our debt.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

I have said Many Times as far back as 12-Years ago America Will Never be the Great Country it Was Before Bush,And it will not,,as long as there is ,the Republican Cancer Eating Away at it.

Although this Administration has Turned The Country around in Most Areas,,While fighting the Worst Two Congresses in America History ,,America will never Reach the Pre-Bush/Cheney Levels.

[Newt]

"If a man shuts his ears to the cry of the poor, he too will cry out and not be answered"

Your statement above reminded me of the post on another board.

" At least welfare in the US puts you in poverty at best."

This is actually not true at all.

The below is most certainly NOT poverty.

"The state-by-state estimates are based on a hypothetical family participating in about seven of the 126 federal anti-poverty programs: Temporary Assistance for Needy Families; the Women, Infants and Children program; Medicaid; Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program; and receiving help on housing and utilities"

"In Hawaii, that translates into a 2013 package of $49,175 — up $7,265 from an inflation-adjusted $41,910 in 1995. Rounding out the top five areas for welfare benefits, along with their 2013 amounts, were: the District of Columbia ($43,099), Massachusetts ($42,515), Connecticut ($38,761) and New Jersey ($38,728)."

The Millennial generation has come to one hell of a conclusion. If you ask any of them, they will happily tell you how the baby boomers have over spent so much that they don't even believe Social Security will be there for them...........

BUT

They use the above reality as justification for MORE spending today. IE, the whole, "well, why should we suffer just cause you nearly bankrupted us" logic.

Hence, that group of people who whine about us spending their SS benefit? What do they do? Well, they are pretty much 100% all in for the most recent MASSIVE government expenditure program, Obamacare.

Effectively, their solution to their own stated problem of government overspending is to spend more!!!

This young generation is going to vote Democrat for POTUS. They are going to vote for Hillary.

The Democrat POTUS will appoint progressive/activist SCOTUS Justices. SCOTUS will implement the entire progressive agenda via SCOTUS decisions.

For the Left to win, all they need is to win the POTUS election.


So, PM instead of bellyaching and blaming Republicans you and Mo5000 should be jumping and singing for joy. You and your grand kids will be living in Progressive Utopia. Who knows your Mutual Funds may own some Puerto Rican Bonds. Wouldn't that be fitting.

Puerto Rico is on the brink of your Utopia

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And unlike this stuff in Greece, which is mostly worrisome to French and Germans and such-like, Puerto Rico’s looming bondpocalypse actually affects us. Some of that $72 billion that’s about to go up in smoke is probably coming right out of your 401(k).

About 70 percent of U.S. mutual funds own Puerto Rican bonds, says the investment research company Morningstar.



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Don’t borrow money on your credit card to pay your mortgage bill. That’s essentially what Puerto Rico was doing. It sold a bunch of bonds it couldn’t afford, then sold a bunch more to make payments on the earlier ones.

Bottom line: The government now owes about $10,600 per Puerto Rican — about 10 times the debt of the average American state.



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Never play Monopoly with the government. One of the heaviest stones around Puerto Rico’s neck is its electric monopoly PREPA, which despite all its borrowing (over $9 billion) has a shoddy infrastructure that produces electricity at a price of 22 cents a kilowatt hour, double the rate in the mainland United States.



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Workers go where the money is, especially if it’s home in bed. One big reason Puerto Rico can’t pay its debts is that so few of its citizens are paying taxes because they aren’t working.

Only about 40 percent of adult Puerto Ricans have jobs or are looking for them. One reason for that: For many of them, welfare literally pays better. A Puerto Rican household of three that’s eligible for food stamps, Medicaid, aid for dependent children and utility subsidies can take home $1,743 a month, compared to $1,159 for holding a minimum-wage job.


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So why not just raise the minimum wage? Because that would throw even more people out of work — and it’s not just the greedheads at McDonald’s and Burger King saying so. Absolutely the most fascinating thing about Puerto Rico’s economic crisis is that it’s forcing recognition that there really are consequences to increasing the minimum wage.

Though the island has the same federal minimum wage as the mainland United States, $7.25 an hour, that’s a big salary in the island’s depressed economy — about 77 percent of the average pay rate, as opposed to about 28 percent on the mainland. It’s as if minimum wage in the rest of the United States were raised to $19 an hour.

As a Puerto Rican government report admitted last month, “The high minimum wage raises the cost of employment and prices many employers out of the market, causing unemployment to rise and thus tax revenue to dry up.”



Other things you should know about Puerto Rico:

1) Economy has shrank 16% since 2005. Economy has gotten smaller every year since then.

LINK http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/opn- ... 04763.html

Glenn Garvin: Lessons of Puerto Rico’s painful crisis

Puerto Rico= One giant Keynesian experiment gone wrong.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Newt
As you very well know,,I don't Belly Ache,I simply state the facts.

I have proved over and over Republicans,,are A Cancer destroying this country ,I have not read A Republican, post on this board in 12- years,,that had any kind of truth or facts in ,them,,,just,,mindless,,Anarchist Rants based in hate,

[bluemouse]

Only truth to your post pinemooch is your just as big of liar as your babbling hero.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Bluerat

You bilked any kids or folks out of their last dollar today,,I bet you sleep good,,,,


Here is a Short start as to why America's best days are Behind,,,,,,,

These are historic FACTS,,,OF COURSE REPUBLICANS ,,SAY HISTORY IS WHAT WE SAY IT IS,,,,,

The Bush/Cheney Regime,,,
Although it railed against entitlement programs for the needy,
the administration enacted the largest increase in entitlements in four decades—

the poorly designed Medicare prescription-drug benefit, intended as both an election-season bribe and a sop to the pharmaceutical industry. As internal documents later revealed, the true cost of the measure was hidden from Congress. Meanwhile, the pharmaceutical companies received special favors. To access the new benefits, elderly patients couldn’t opt to buy cheaper medications from Canada or other countries. The law also prohibited the U.S. government, the largest single buyer of prescription drugs, from negotiating with drug manufacturers to keep costs down. As a result, American consumers pay far more for medications than people elsewhere in the developed world.

You’ll still hear some—and, loudly, the president himself—argue that the administration’s tax cuts were meant to stimulate the economy, but this was never true. The bang for the buck—the amount of stimulus per dollar of deficit—was astonishingly low. Therefore, the job of economic stimulation fell to the Federal Reserve Board, which stepped on the accelerator in a historically unprecedented way, driving interest rates down to 1 percent. In real terms, taking inflation into account, interest rates actually dropped to negative 2 percent. The predictable result was a consumer spending spree. Looked at another way, Bush’s own fiscal irresponsibility fostered irresponsibility in everyone else. Credit was shoveled out the door, and subprime mortgages were made available to anyone this side of life support. Credit-card debt mounted to a whopping $900 billion by the summer of 2007. “Qualified at birth” became the drunken slogan of the Bush era. American households took advantage of the low interest rates, signed up for new mortgages with “teaser” initial rates, and went to town on the proceeds.

All of this spending made the economy look better for a while; the president could (and did) boast about the economic statistics. But the consequences for many families would become apparent within a few years, when interest rates rose and mortgages proved impossible to repay. The president undoubtedly hoped the reckoning would come sometime after 2008. It arrived 18 months early. As many as 1.7 million Americans are expected to lose their homes in the months ahead. For many, this will mean the beginning of a downward spiral into poverty.

Between March 2006 and March 2007 personal-bankruptcy rates soared more than 60 percent. As families went into bankruptcy, more and more of them came to understand who had won and who had lost as a result of the president’s 2005 bankruptcy bill, which made it harder for individuals to discharge their debts in a reasonable way. The lenders that had pressed for “reform” had been the clear winners, gaining added leverage and protections for themselves; people facing financial distress got the shaft.

[bluemouse]

pinemooch you are living proof of a uneducated voter, being a liberal idiot you thing since obabbler has put half the country on entitlements its a good thing what a clown. It was the liberal dems clown that wanted everybody to have a home whether they could afford it or not and how did that turn out clown. And bilking someone clown how many years have you bilked the american tax payors for a check. You are worthless clown.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

by bluemouse » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:59 am

pinemooch you are living proof of a uneducated voter, being a liberal idiot you thing since obabbler has put half the country on entitlements its a good thing what a clown. It was the liberal dems clown that wanted everybody to have a home whether they could afford it or not and how did that turn out clown. And bilking someone clown how many years have you bilked the american tax payors for a check. You are worthless clown.

You usual prove your stupidity,,,

The Bush/Cheney,,,Tyranny,,,pushed banks to loan money to people they knew could not afford them,,

Also the Bush/Cheney bunch. Added Millions to Entitlements.

But,,as usual you are to busy trying to figure out how to get in some one else's pockets to know this.

If it were not for this Administration ,,America,,would be fully owned by,China now instead of only half.

Simply Pathetic,I know you can't read,,but,,just try.


Bush/Cheney
The president ( Bush ) has driven the United States into a recession during his almost seven years. And the other side of the ledger groans with distress: a tax code that has become hideously biased in favor of the rich; a national debt that will probably have grown 70 percent by the time this president leaves Washington; a swelling cascade of mortgage defaults; a record near-$850 billion trade deficit; oil prices that are higher than they have ever been; and a dollar so weak that for an American to buy a cup of coffee in London or Paris—or even the Yukon—becomes a venture in high finance.

And it gets worse. After almost seven years of this president, the United States is less prepared than ever to face the future. We have not been educating enough engineers and scientists, people with the skills we will need to compete with China and India. We have not been investing in the kinds of basic research that made us the technological powerhouse of the late 20th century. And although the president now understands—or so he says—that we must begin to wean ourselves from oil and coal, ( Bush said this ) we have on his watch become more deeply dependent on both.

Up to now, the conventional wisdom has been that Herbert Hoover, whose policies aggravated the Great Depression, is the odds-on claimant for the mantle “worst president” when it comes to stewardship of the American economy. Once Franklin Roosevelt assumed office and reversed Hoover’s policies, the country began to recover. The economic effects of Bush’s presidency are more insidious than those of Hoover, harder to reverse, and likely to be longer-lasting. There is no threat of America’s being displaced from its position as the world’s richest economy. But our grandchildren will still be living with, and struggling with, the economic consequences of Mr. Bush.

And this President like Roosevelt ,,has turned this Economy around.

[bluemouse]

pinemooch you would not make a good scab on Bushes dog butt, your a idiot.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Well you out did me there,,you like most Republicans ARE SCABS.

[Newt]

Report on the War on Terror and the Gov will put you on a watch list
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Over six years, filmmaker Laura Poitras was searched, interrogated and detained more than 50 times at U.S. and foreign airports.

When she asked why, U.S. agencies wouldn’t say.

Now, after receiving no response to her Freedom of Information Act requests for documents pertaining to her systemic targeting, Poitras is suing the U.S. government.

In a complaint filed on Monday afternoon, Poitras demanded that the Department of Justice, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence release any and all documentation pertaining to her tracking, targeting and questioning while traveling between 2006 and 2012.

“I’m filing this lawsuit because the government uses the U.S. border to bypass the rule of law,” Poitras said in a statement. Poitras co-founded The Intercept with Glenn Greenwald and Jeremy Scahill.

She said she hopes to draw attention to how other people, who aren’t as well known, “are also subjected to years of Kafkaesque harassment at the borders.”

Poitras has been the subject of government monitoring since 2006, when she was working on a documentary film, My Country, My Country, that told the story of the Iraq War from the perspective of an Iraqi doctor.

Airport security informed her that the Department of Homeland Security assigned her the highest “threat rating” possible, despite the fact that she has never been charged with a crime. She described the government’s inspection and forceful seizure of her notebooks, laptop, cell phone and other personal items as “shameful” in an interview with Democracy Now in 2012. On one occasion, security officers at the airport refused to allow her to take notes on her interrogation, arguing that her pen could be used as a weapon.

Poitras was only freed from the constant harassment after Glenn Greenwald published an article about her plight in 2012, and a group of filmmakers united to write a petition against the government’s monitoring.

Based on her earlier work, NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden picked Poitras, along with Greenwald, to receive his archive of documents, which revealed massive worldwide surveillance by the U.S. and the U.K. Poitras won an Academy Award in 2014 for her documentary about Snowden, called CITIZENFOUR, and shared the 2014 Pulitzer Prize for public service.

In 2013, Poitras filed a Freedom of Information Act request to access any information about herself that the government used to determine that she was a danger to national security and worthy of intense scrutiny.

There is an immense backlog of unanswered FOIA requests across the government. Just this year, the number of unanswered FOIA requests swelled to over 200,000 — over 50 percent more than last year.

Poitras is being represented by lawyers at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a digital rights advocacy group. “The well-documented difficulties Ms. Poitras experienced while traveling strongly suggest that she was improperly targeted by federal agencies as a result of her journalistic activities,” EFF senior counsel David Sobel told the Intercept. “Those agencies are now attempting to conceal information that would shed light on tactics that appear to have been illegal. We are confident that the court will not condone the government’s attempt to hide its misconduct under a veil of ‘national security.'”
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015 ... ed-border/

[Rabbithoundjb]

So PMB tell all of the name of that legislation bush/cheney signed into law that forced banks to loan to people who could not make the payment. As usual you are lying.