This might be fun

[bluemouse]

Since the spokes person for the DNC( debbi whatshername) can not answer the question about whats the differnce between a democrat and a socialist is maybe one of the liberals here will speak up? Come on pinemooch give it a shot sport!

[bluemouse]

Whats wrong clown can not find a cut paste.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Fun Indeed

Blue,,How many Old People You Bilked out of a Their a Grocery Money today..

Here this is for You,,Get someone to read it for you,,,

America,,,is ,By Defination A Plutocracy,,,,Meaning Government owned and Operated by,,,,The Elite Few,,,,,It has Never been and Never will be A Democracy.

When you have Public Schools,,Utilities,a Roads,Owned and Operated by,the Government ,that is Socialism.

People like you,,believe in the Plutocrat System,,you have to have, A Corporate Owner,,Because,you simply cannot,,Function ,with out some Corporation or,Company Owner ,Telling you what to do ,and How you Should think.


Socialism is a social and economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy,as well as a political theory and movement that aims at the establishment of such a system.[3][4] "Social ownership" may refer to cooperative enterprises, common ownership, state ownership, -------->citizen ownership of equity, or any combination of these.

There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them.[6] They differ in the type of social ownership they advocate, the degree to which they rely on markets or planning, how management is to be organised within productive institutions, and the role of the state in constructing socialism.

A socialist economy is based on the principle of production for use, to directly satisfy economic demand and human needs, and objects are valued by their use-value, as opposed to the principle of production for profit and accumulation of capital.

In the traditional conception of a socialist economy, coordination, accounting and valuation are performed in kind (using physical quantities), by a common physical magnitude, or by a direct measure of labour-time in place of financial calculation.For distributing output, two alternative principles have been proposed: to each according to his contribution and from each according to his ability, to each according to his need. The advisability, feasibility and exact way of allocating and valuing resources are the subjects of the socialist calculation debate.

The socialist political movement includes a diverse array of political philosophies. Core dichotomies include reformism versus revolutionary socialism, and state socialism versus libertarian socialism.

State socialism encompasses calls for the nationalisation of monopolized or oligopolized corporations or other institutions, universal goal setting and planning, and legal public ownership of the means of production as a strategy for implementing socialism; libertarian socialism encompasses calls for decentralised means of direct democracy such as libertarian municipalism, citizens' assemblies, trade unions, and workers' councils, coming from a general anti-authoritarian stance.

While all tendencies of socialism consider themselves democratic, the term "democratic socialism" is often used to highlight its advocates' high value for democratic processes and political systems and usually to draw contrast to other socialist tendencies they may perceive to be undemocratic.Some socialists have adopted the causes of other social movements, such as environmentalism, feminism and liberalism.

Modern socialism originated from an 18th-century intellectual and working-class political movement that criticised the effects of industrialisation and private property on society. The revival of republicanism in the American Revolution of 1776 and the revival of egalitarianism in the French Revolution of 1789 converged into the rise of socialism as a distinct political movement by the turn of the century. Initially, "socialism" referred to general concern for the social problems of capitalism regardless of the solutions to those problems. However, by the late 19th century, after waves of revolutionary movements, "socialism" had come to signify opposition to capitalism and advocacy for a post-capitalist system based on some form of social ownership.[21] During this time, German philosopher Karl Marx and his collaborator Friedrich Engels published works criticising the utopian aspects of contemporary socialist trends, and applied a materialist understanding of socialism as a phase of development which will come about through social revolution instigated by escalating and conflicting class relationships within capitalism.[22] Within this surge of opposition to capitalism appeared other more or less complementary tendencies such as anarchism, communism, and social-democracy and later, the confluence of socialism with anti-imperialist and anti-racist struggles around the world. Socialism became the most influential worldwide movement and political-economic world view of the 20th century[23] Some anarchist, socialist and Marxist tendencies argue that the Soviet Union did not establish socialism, but rather established state capitalism.[24][25][26] Today, socialist parties and ideas remain a political force with varying degrees of power and influence in all continents, leading national governments in many countries.

[bluegrass]

Bluemouse, you were wrong...Rufus DID find a cut and paste answer...apparently he did NOT know the answer himself but instead, like ALL his information, he had to find someone to talk for him.

Pretty sad Rufus that calling you stupid would actually elevate you.

[bluemouse]

What would be funny is for this clown to read what he posted and explain the content of the subject itself.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

I could have just as easily typed that my self ,,

I can Read and Right ,,you guy's have,,made a very Bad Mistake,, it's Republicans who don't read.Unlike you fools I have an Education,,,
In your Arrogance,,you make a very flawed mistake.

Arrogance,,is not A Virtue.but,then Republicans don't have any virtues.


Resourcefulness ,,is ,,Very useful,,I like using facts,when debating,,not fiction.

And your ignorant,Question was VERY THOROUGHLY. ANSWERED.WITH FACTS ,AND PRECISION.

[Rabbithoundjb]

PMB how many old folks have you taken money from in your life, LMAO!

Yep PMB has many resources, all anti American, communist, lying INSULTS TO ANY LEVEL OF REAL INTELLIGENCE, PATRIOTISM AND SO ON.

[bluemouse]

pinemooch can read and right. what a clown trying to explain his smarts.

[bluemouse]

Pinemooch hate to tell ya 3 years in the fifth grade don't make you smart clown.

[Pine Lakes]

Resourcefulness ,,is ,,Very useful,,I like using facts,when debating,,not fiction.

Now that is funny!

[Newt]

PM Posted
"German philosopher Karl Marx and his collaborator Friedrich Engels published works criticising the utopian aspects of contemporary socialist trends, and applied a materialist understanding of socialism as a phase of development which will come about through social revolution instigated by escalating and conflicting class relationships within capitalism.[22] Within this surge of opposition to capitalism appeared other more or less complementary tendencies such as anarchism, communism, and social-democracy and later, the confluence of socialism with anti-imperialist and anti-racist struggles around the world. Socialism became the most influential worldwide movement and political-economic world view of the 20th century[23] Some anarchist, socialist and Marxist tendencies argue that the Soviet Union did not establish socialism, but rather established state capitalism.[24][25][26] Today, socialist parties and ideas remain a political force with varying degrees of power and influence in all continents, leading national governments in many countries."

So the USSR had state run Capitalism.
What did China, Cuba, Chile, East Germany, Venezuela, and Cambodia have?

What does Hillary and Obama have in mind. Is it Capitalism, Communism, or State run Capitalism?
The State tells us which business can operate, which political views are welcome, who gets special privileges.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Re: This might be fun
by Rabbithoundjb » Wed Aug 05, 2015 11:25 pm

PMB how many old folks have you taken money from in your life, LMAO!

Yep PMB has many resources, all anti American, communist, lying INSULTS TO ANY LEVEL OF REAL INTELLIGENCE, PATRIOTISM AND SO ON.


Rabbit
I am not A Republican ,,,,TAKER THAT IS YOU GUYS,,

YOU CAN TALK ABOUT ME ,ANY WAY YOU WANT YOU ,CAN SAY ANYTHING ,YOU THINK,,,,CALL ME NAMES,,,BUT,,I AM A PATRIOT,,,,,I KNOW YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS,,,BUT,,I TOOK AN OATH,TO DEFEND THIS COUNTRY FROM ALL,ENEMIES BOTH FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC,,,,(( And I have never been Released from that Oath )) ,AT THIS TIME IN HISTORY ,AMERICAS WORST ENEMY IS THE BRAIN WASHED REPUBLICANS,,,MUCH LIKE RABID DOGS ,THEY NEED TO BE DEALT WITH ACCORDINGLY.

AND
LIKE MOST OF FAMILY,, I VOLUNTEERED AND JOINED THE UNITED STATES,,MARINE CORPS,,,DURING VIETNAM,,,I SAW AND DID THINGS ,,THAT WOULD MAKE YOU CURL UP ,,IN A FETAL POSITION AND CRY,,,

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DISCUSS MY PATRIOTISM,,,IN PERSON WITH EITHER OR ALL THREE OF YOU..

BUT,,I REALLY DOUBT YOU FEEL AS STRONGLY,,ABOUT YOUR PATRIOTISM OR LOVE OF COUNTRY,,,

I AM IN NO WAY THREATENING ,YOU THREE,,BUT,,IT IS MUCH EASIER TO REALLY UNDERSTAND SOME's SINCERITY,IN PERSON,,I WILL BUY YOU BREAKFAST,DINNER OR SUPPER AND WE CAN TALK LIKE MEN.

ARE YOU GUYS PATRIOTS ---?

[bluemouse]

pinemooch you supporting obabbler shows you left your oath behind for what he has done to America. You buying me dinner would be like me paying for my own see if you can comprehend that.

[bluegrass]

Rufus definition of Patriotism...

Hate Republicans
Support killing babies
Support gay marriage
Support confiscation of wealth
Hate Republicans
Support Democrats no matter what
Hate Republicans
Bash Christians
Hate Republicans


By these definitions Rufus, no...I'm not a patriot by these definitions.

[Pine Mt Beagles]

Neither of you are Patriots,

You are nothing but Liars and Cowards,,,Who sit Around all day Drooling on your Key Boards,in A drugged out of your mind,,,waiting for some one to type sound thing for you.