What is the toughest hound you have ever witnessed?????
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brushdog
What is the toughest hound you have ever witnessed?????
C'mon guys, everyone has a hound in their mind that is or was the best they've ever witnessed.... If you would like to separate the Best hunters and the best runners that would be fine also.....
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ohioan
MARK V ACE IN THE WHOLE
HE HAD A VERY HIGH RUN THEM DOWN AND CATCH RATIO I WOULD SAY 50% AND I BET YOU COULDNT COUNT TO 5 ON ANY CHECK OR EVEN ANY WEATHER CONDITION.
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New York Hillbilly
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Brushdog,
I have spoken of a bitch that I own before on this site and have to still say she is the toughest, grittiest, die hard hound I have ever seen. I do not care what the conditions are from below zero with the wind blowing to hotter than the hubs of hell and dry as a popcorn... well you know. This bitch will literally run until she drops dead if you do not stop her. I can provide a list of people who will tell you what I say is true. I wish I could say she was some fancy family of blue blood type hound, but she is not. Don't get me wrong she has some good stuff in her breeding but not enough to impress those who search for the whos who in beagledom. I came to own her by settling a bar debt between two guys. I didn't even know her name at first the situation was so bad. I called her Candy because she was so sweet. She was in sort of rough shape when I got her as she was kept in the yard on a chain and the only time off was to go kill rabbits and then right back on the chain. When I finally got her papers I found her actual name was Jill and that there were a couple good hounds in there but nothing really well known. As time went on though I found she was a rabbit crazy nut! She once crawled under her kennel fence with pups still stuck to her and left them crying to fend for themselves because she heard her packmates running off in the distance. I all of a sudden heard her voice in the pack runing and had to catch her and put her in the truck seat to return her to her box and her pups. Milk dripping all over the place I gathered up the pups and locked her and the pups in the whelping box to keep her in. She has run in trials where the multiflora rose was so bad that the hounds were shredded to bits. And after the hunt while the other hounds were happy to be back on their leashes and ready to quit, she with her sides painted crimson from her bloody tail slapping her sides was still pulling like a mule to get off the lead and back in the briars. I know that it sounds like bologna and I don't blame anyone for thinking I am stretching the truth but I am not. This is by far the toughest hound I have ever seen in all my years of running beagles and I thank God for bringing her to me. She is a medium/fast speed, big nosed, stubborn die hard hound and I love her to death. If I had the time she would have easily championed in ARHA PP and more than likely ARHA LP. I drove 16 hours one time to run her in one of the ARHA big four hunts and before the hounds were even released I had to hold her in my arms to keep her from opening because she could smell a rabbit and wanted to get after before the hunt was even started. The minute she hit the ground she was off , opened and jumped the rabbit with the other hounds and handlers scratching their heads.The pack took off and had a split with her and one other hound remaining on the original rabbit and three hounds taking after the second one. The judge ordered me to catch her and get her on the rabbit with the group of three. It took me more than 20 minutes to catch her and get her with the others. As it turned out she lost the cast by only twenty points with the points in the 200's. Not bad for being out of the scoring for more than a third of the hunt! She is getting old now and I see where her speed has slowed down, but not her desire. The only complaint I have ever had about her is that she is not good at being a mother. For whatever reason she has had little success at keeping her pups alive. She crushes them and moves them all over as well as leaving them if she thinks its time to go hunting. I want to try one last time to get a litter out of her so it does not end with her. I have some hounds that are real smokin hounds and I would even say as good as her when it comes to running rabbits But, I can say when it comes to toughness I have never had one in my kennel nor have I personally seen one in anyone elses that is tougher than Candy or Jill or whatever you call her. I'll stick to Candy cause even as tough as she is, after all these years she is still pretty sweet to me.
NYH
I have spoken of a bitch that I own before on this site and have to still say she is the toughest, grittiest, die hard hound I have ever seen. I do not care what the conditions are from below zero with the wind blowing to hotter than the hubs of hell and dry as a popcorn... well you know. This bitch will literally run until she drops dead if you do not stop her. I can provide a list of people who will tell you what I say is true. I wish I could say she was some fancy family of blue blood type hound, but she is not. Don't get me wrong she has some good stuff in her breeding but not enough to impress those who search for the whos who in beagledom. I came to own her by settling a bar debt between two guys. I didn't even know her name at first the situation was so bad. I called her Candy because she was so sweet. She was in sort of rough shape when I got her as she was kept in the yard on a chain and the only time off was to go kill rabbits and then right back on the chain. When I finally got her papers I found her actual name was Jill and that there were a couple good hounds in there but nothing really well known. As time went on though I found she was a rabbit crazy nut! She once crawled under her kennel fence with pups still stuck to her and left them crying to fend for themselves because she heard her packmates running off in the distance. I all of a sudden heard her voice in the pack runing and had to catch her and put her in the truck seat to return her to her box and her pups. Milk dripping all over the place I gathered up the pups and locked her and the pups in the whelping box to keep her in. She has run in trials where the multiflora rose was so bad that the hounds were shredded to bits. And after the hunt while the other hounds were happy to be back on their leashes and ready to quit, she with her sides painted crimson from her bloody tail slapping her sides was still pulling like a mule to get off the lead and back in the briars. I know that it sounds like bologna and I don't blame anyone for thinking I am stretching the truth but I am not. This is by far the toughest hound I have ever seen in all my years of running beagles and I thank God for bringing her to me. She is a medium/fast speed, big nosed, stubborn die hard hound and I love her to death. If I had the time she would have easily championed in ARHA PP and more than likely ARHA LP. I drove 16 hours one time to run her in one of the ARHA big four hunts and before the hounds were even released I had to hold her in my arms to keep her from opening because she could smell a rabbit and wanted to get after before the hunt was even started. The minute she hit the ground she was off , opened and jumped the rabbit with the other hounds and handlers scratching their heads.The pack took off and had a split with her and one other hound remaining on the original rabbit and three hounds taking after the second one. The judge ordered me to catch her and get her on the rabbit with the group of three. It took me more than 20 minutes to catch her and get her with the others. As it turned out she lost the cast by only twenty points with the points in the 200's. Not bad for being out of the scoring for more than a third of the hunt! She is getting old now and I see where her speed has slowed down, but not her desire. The only complaint I have ever had about her is that she is not good at being a mother. For whatever reason she has had little success at keeping her pups alive. She crushes them and moves them all over as well as leaving them if she thinks its time to go hunting. I want to try one last time to get a litter out of her so it does not end with her. I have some hounds that are real smokin hounds and I would even say as good as her when it comes to running rabbits But, I can say when it comes to toughness I have never had one in my kennel nor have I personally seen one in anyone elses that is tougher than Candy or Jill or whatever you call her. I'll stick to Candy cause even as tough as she is, after all these years she is still pretty sweet to me.
NYH
When my life on earth is ended....this is all I'm gonna say...Lord I've been a hard working pilgrim on the way!
You said toughest, not necessarily the best. OK... I won't mention any names or dogs here because I don't want anyone mad at me or the person who did this.
"John Doe" had a male dog that hurt its back real bad one day while hunting and basically couldn't use its back legs at all unless it was all doped up on steroids. If memory serves me correctly, this dog had just championed out in the PP division before the accident. The dog eventually got enough better so that it could hunt, but would end up gimping really bad after a hunt.
John Doe took this dog to an out of state "State" hunt and entered it into the champion class. The dog came home with first place even though he gimped the whole day.
Now, I am not saying this is right or wrong. What I am saying is that this is one tough dog!!!
Emery
"John Doe" had a male dog that hurt its back real bad one day while hunting and basically couldn't use its back legs at all unless it was all doped up on steroids. If memory serves me correctly, this dog had just championed out in the PP division before the accident. The dog eventually got enough better so that it could hunt, but would end up gimping really bad after a hunt.
John Doe took this dog to an out of state "State" hunt and entered it into the champion class. The dog came home with first place even though he gimped the whole day.
Now, I am not saying this is right or wrong. What I am saying is that this is one tough dog!!!
Emery
Be ye kind one unto another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you. Ephesians 4:32
I first saw her in '82 at the Deep South Fed all-age Championship in Texas. She was strait out of Gay Baker and about 10" tall. Hershberger's Gay Melody was owned by Louis Lippari and handled by Bob Fenn. For her size she gave those stout full 13" bitches a run for thier money. Every ounce of her was rabbit hound. She died with 2 wins. One in AKC Large Pack and one in SPO. Bred on different occasions but never had a pup live. This is when the stoutest runnin hounds were coming out of the Deep South. Honorable mentions would go to Studdard's Slim owned by Tony Futrell & FC Brushey Bayou Beauregard. 
Tough Dog
The toughest dog I have ever seen is a Plott bear dog. Fearless bay dog that always ends up with stitches if the bear is caught on the ground. 
You said Toughest dog, not the toughest beagle The toughest beagle I have ever seen was a grade dog.
You said Toughest dog, not the toughest beagle The toughest beagle I have ever seen was a grade dog.Take a Kid Hunting and Fishing
Aleska's Indio (Dody) Saw her run many hounds to exhaustion,well built, in shape hounds who took a few days to get tired. Saw her run with thorn apple clean threw her foot. Saw her runnning silent and stopped her and found a stick stuck in her throat. Once I pulled it out she went right back to the run and opened again. Saw her brace herself and not let out a peep when she had a breech pup while I helped her deliver it. Never saw the day where she quit or dropped out or even slacked off of a run even after running for several days in a row packed. Never saw an obstackle she wouldn't tackle. Saw her break out of brush piles and run threw multi flora rose without slowing.
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BJK
Those of you that know me know I like fast on track, explosive out of the check area type dogs. Yes, I even like some swinging in my hounds. My philosophy is, "If you can't smell it here, then go where you can!"
Years ago at my first trial I had the pleasure of seeing Cody's Sharp Mikie run. Whew! what a dog. On a scale of 1-10 he was an 8 in my book. He ran with his head up. On checks he would pick the scent up off of the bushes. He did come back to point loss, however he didn't stay there long if he couldn't find it. When he did, look out. At the same trial I saw a little red and white female run. She was very quick hunting, fast on track and very fast out of the check. Her name was Crain's HH Red Jesse, owned by Tom Kitzmiller. In the semi-final cast, the 5 dogs were working a check. Four big males were searching together, Red Jesse was a few yards behind them searching. Jesse made the check at the same time one of the other males made it. However before he could think about advancing it, Jesse made it where she was. Like a bullet out of a gun Jesse split the four hounds down the middle and left them wondering, "What was that red blur?" Needless to say, she went on to the finals and placed second. Like I said, that was years ago but the memories are still vivid!
At the 2000 World Hunt in the Champion class, there was a dog named JRK A Touch From Heaven Angel owned by Jacob James of Ok. She was so quick and fast that year. None of the hounds in her cast ever ran in front of her. As a matter of fact. She scored every check for the first 30 minutes. Not saying the other four hounds didn't contribute, but everything they did, she had already done. Simply Amazing!
While attending the 2002 World Hunt he placed 5th overall and placed 1st in 2001. I had the pleasure of watching Denny's Blue II run in the Grand Champion class. I must admit it wasn't the first time that I'd seen him run. I've also judged him a few times. But this was the first time that I saw him run in the open terrain of Indiana. What a dog! He smoked everything that ran with him. That's right all the dogs in his cast and the judges. This dog can fly. But he can break it down and figure it out when lost. When he does, if you're not there, well to put it lightly, you missed the bus. He will not run in the back of the pack. He'll do it with you or without you. Most of the time it was without. He strung out the other four dogs so badly that the judges thought it was a split. They had to call timeout several times to catch their breath. He beat his packmates so bad that a couple of dogs would quit because they couldn't get the front and all that they could smell was his tracks. Folks I don't like blueticks but a good dog is a good dog. Since Mikie isn't around anymore, I plan on breeding a couple of Lumberjack females to him. No, he is not AKC but papers never ran a rabbit to my gun.
I didn't mean to ramble on, but someone barked up the wrong tree when they started this topic, lol! Yall call me anytime and we can talk dogs
Nate Johnson, Big Johnson's Kennel 804-747-9017
Years ago at my first trial I had the pleasure of seeing Cody's Sharp Mikie run. Whew! what a dog. On a scale of 1-10 he was an 8 in my book. He ran with his head up. On checks he would pick the scent up off of the bushes. He did come back to point loss, however he didn't stay there long if he couldn't find it. When he did, look out. At the same trial I saw a little red and white female run. She was very quick hunting, fast on track and very fast out of the check. Her name was Crain's HH Red Jesse, owned by Tom Kitzmiller. In the semi-final cast, the 5 dogs were working a check. Four big males were searching together, Red Jesse was a few yards behind them searching. Jesse made the check at the same time one of the other males made it. However before he could think about advancing it, Jesse made it where she was. Like a bullet out of a gun Jesse split the four hounds down the middle and left them wondering, "What was that red blur?" Needless to say, she went on to the finals and placed second. Like I said, that was years ago but the memories are still vivid!
At the 2000 World Hunt in the Champion class, there was a dog named JRK A Touch From Heaven Angel owned by Jacob James of Ok. She was so quick and fast that year. None of the hounds in her cast ever ran in front of her. As a matter of fact. She scored every check for the first 30 minutes. Not saying the other four hounds didn't contribute, but everything they did, she had already done. Simply Amazing!
While attending the 2002 World Hunt he placed 5th overall and placed 1st in 2001. I had the pleasure of watching Denny's Blue II run in the Grand Champion class. I must admit it wasn't the first time that I'd seen him run. I've also judged him a few times. But this was the first time that I saw him run in the open terrain of Indiana. What a dog! He smoked everything that ran with him. That's right all the dogs in his cast and the judges. This dog can fly. But he can break it down and figure it out when lost. When he does, if you're not there, well to put it lightly, you missed the bus. He will not run in the back of the pack. He'll do it with you or without you. Most of the time it was without. He strung out the other four dogs so badly that the judges thought it was a split. They had to call timeout several times to catch their breath. He beat his packmates so bad that a couple of dogs would quit because they couldn't get the front and all that they could smell was his tracks. Folks I don't like blueticks but a good dog is a good dog. Since Mikie isn't around anymore, I plan on breeding a couple of Lumberjack females to him. No, he is not AKC but papers never ran a rabbit to my gun.
I didn't mean to ramble on, but someone barked up the wrong tree when they started this topic, lol! Yall call me anytime and we can talk dogs
Nate Johnson, Big Johnson's Kennel 804-747-9017
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dawgydawg67
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Larsen's Native Girl owned by Steve Van Tuinen. But please don't tell him I liked her...he might get a big head. You might be able to beat her at a small club hunt but when it came time for a "Big Four Hunt" she came with her lunch packed. When she locked onto a rabbit she ran it right.
Unless your the lead dog the view never changes
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I'm with you Nate, Cody's Sharp Mikie, 35 pounds of rabbit eating machine. Merel told me this hound was a nut when young, well as it turned out this type had to be run & run often. The more he ran, the more he liked it & the better he got. Never saw a day he wasn't ready for a rabbit race & never saw the day you could run him out. I've seen this hound catch more rabbits than any hound I've known and they weren't caught in a sit, they were run down. This may be where that Jackson hound gets it...Patch
Got a speckled up dog in this kennel like that - nuts if you don't run him and has caught his share on a drive. Until we got these new kennels, he had to be kept behind 9 ga. welded wire because he could beaver through wood or chainlink. I've seen Jackson run at trials and he was gunned when up here to service a female of ours. He had an uncanny sense of where the rabbit was at all times and took "accurate shortcuts" to get him, lol! I would like to have seen Mikie run.
Don't know who the toughest hound (consistently) I've seen is yet - still thinking.
Don't know who the toughest hound (consistently) I've seen is yet - still thinking.
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MikeSmithWV
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Im sure there are a lot of great ones that I havent seen but truly the best hound I've ever witnessed was Smith's Weedeater Tramp.... The first time I ever witnessed Tramp was at the 2000 World Hunt which she won the Champion class. I watched Tramp win 3 casts that year and in all 3 casts combined there must have been 2 hours and 50 minutes of driving. I was definetly impressed with her Track Power.... The following spring Mr. Farrell Smith gave me the opportunity to condition her for the 2001 World Hunt. I knew from the year before Tramp was a good track dog but after running her for over a month I came to realize she was a total package.. Tramp had relentless hunt... She certainly was the busiest and also the best jumpdog I've ever seen. Tramp hunted quick but never out of control. She covered a lot of ground but was always poking and digging in the brush.. In closing I must say Tramp won the world hunt with track power but she won my heart with her hunt and Is the best hound Ive ever seen......
I don't get out of MN much but the best dog I've ever seen run was a female named Sandy that belonged to Pete LaDue. Pete ran her mostly on hare and she sounded like a foxhound chasing a deer. We didn't have anything else that could keep up with her. I remember one day when the temp was about ten below and she was running in powder snow that came up past your knees. We had some other dogs out but they weren't doing much so we picked them up and just left Sandy down. She was running steady, just like it was a nice day. Pete went out and got in a deer stand and shot two different rabbits in front of her within about a half hour and came back to the road. Sandy was still running so I went out and climbed up in the same stand and within about 5 minutes Sandy came driving another hare past me. I shot it and caught her and went back to the road. When I got there Petes brother who had been listening to the whole chase asked where the other dogs were. He thought there must have been 2 or 3 dogs out there with all the noise.
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Slaux
Best Dog
Now understand, I am totally biased on this one because I owned her and watched her run more than any other dog. I can also brag a little because she's been dead for going on six years but still dear to my heart, however the best and toughest hound I've ever seen run was my own FC Blueberry Knoll Penny. She came into my life when I was 15 and I had countless years of enjoyment with her. She started when she was twelve weeks old and could circle, not just trail her own rabbit at that age. She was the best gun / snow dog I've ever owned and ran down more hare than I care to think of be it alone or with a pack. The more she ran the tougher she got and when most hounds would tire she just kept getting stronger. I never saw her tire or hit bottom and have never seen her equal nor do I expect to in this lifetime. She was golden until cancer finally took her as 12 1/2. She was of great breeding by FC Townlines Johnny Paycheck x FC Melody Queens Lady, all going back to IFC Mt. Zion Pete. We're all entitled to own one great hound in our lifetimes and she was it.