What is wrong with people?

[warddog]

I tried to keep from posting on this again but I believe the 14 pages of discussion on the topic has served as a learning experiance to some who want to take it as just that. It was never my intent to do anything other than try to get at the TRUTH of such a situation. Like it or not when you turn your dogs loose on public property you take the chance of this very thing happening to you. I personally will NOT hunt on public property during gun season and in fact will not run rabbits on the hunting lease we belong to until after deer gun season is over. I will however run my dogs on state ground after season is over but I will NOT put my dogs in that situation before that. The question was aired of "what is wrong with people" and it got answered. Not all hunters are beaglers and when on public property they are just as entitled to the game on it as a beagler with their dogs are. These folks know nothing of beagler ethics or our unwritten rules so I believe the issue served as a learning tool. I never stated I agreed with what the other hunters did but only that they were within their right to do so when legally hunting. The main point is if you take the law into your own hands you may be the one on the short end of the stick.

[mtnwaykennel]

Well I will toss mine in here as well.

If you fellers are so afraid of hurting this guys feelings or upseting a kid... then perhaps California is the place for you to be. No one else would have stood up for joey.. his hounds and his hunting if he did not. So Kudo's to the guy. Come shoot one in front of my dogs if I dont know you and you gonna wish that what Joey did is all you receive. Yes the guy could have went off as well... but in any situation where someone stands thier ground there is that chance.

Guess I am just country but sometimes you do what you gotta do and it will be what it will be. Take Maple Valley for instance... His story of adventure. He did what he had to .. and it was what it was. I think both him and those other fellers learned thier lesson and ate a little crow at the end of the day so it was what it was. Quit being so danged soft people.. it is what has made our great country a country of weak and worried people. Stand up for yourself and yours cause I promise no one else will... Guess I am just a backwoods redneck. I would have layed a lashing on the feller and I guess did what ever it took for my point to get across.. and the kids would have seen a lesson in the making .... and if I ran into that feller in a few weeks I would shake his hand and perhaps even invite him to come run. Being a man is not always easy.. but always respected.

Bill Woods

[lebro]

i think the problem was some people could not stste their opinions and leave them be they just kept on and on and on [hope the energizer bunny dosent run in front of some of us rabbit hunters] i think there was an ax to grind about something totally diffrent. wonder who has the most posts on this subject? JOEY PLEASE COME BACK

[APFII]

Pretty soon you guys are going to be saying there was a second shooter on the grassy knoll.

[Mo. Beagler 5000]

Mtnway--- don't confuse "country" with pride and arrogance... maybe you woulda stood up to them or tried to give them worse but like MANY people on here have said, Is it really worth it in the long run?

To me, the "country" response woulda been southern hospitality and and a friendly exchange of the rules and norms of hunting over dogs and maybe an invite to join...

[Mapel Valley Kennels LLC.]

Mtnway--- don't confuse "country" with pride and arrogance... maybe you woulda stood up to them or tried to give them worse but like MANY people on here have said, Is it really worth it in the long run?

To me, the "country" response woulda been southern hospitality and and a friendly exchange of the rules and norms of hunting over dogs and maybe an invite to join...

Maybe this woulda been the correct response-Hey yall How bout some Ice tea and a Azz Whoopin Buddie. Or possibly" Hell fire Brother its noon lets go eat some milk and cornbread with brown beans " / Ol Joey will be back.

[BCBeagles]

I respect Joey as a hunter and fellow board member. If he did indeed leave because of a question he asked that that is fine. However, if every time you get offended in some way and remove yourself from the situation you are eventually going to run out of places to go, IMO. We are all adults and if you pose the question be prepared for some answers you may not like, that is just the way it is in EVERYTHING. All have different views, some have the same. Lots of good men and women have fought and died so we can say what we like whether offensive or not. I work in sales and I will tell you if I didn't grow to have thick skin in a hurry and learn not to take things so personal I would still be in my car somewhere crying and peeing my pants . Humans can and will be offensive in every situation, seems like some like to do it a lot more than others!!

[mtnwaykennel]

Like I said I am just country I guess... The hospitality comes after the settlement. You cross the line you get put back on the other side of it. You reach for the cookie jar you get your hand smacked. Born and raised that way and I still say ma'am and sir... and everyone still knows when I speak I mean it and I am a fair person. Pretty simple way of life if you ask me. No one needs to ask where I stand. Most already know.

Bill Woods

[bucks better beagles]

Bill, you just wrote the words to a song. "A Country Boy Can Survive"

[Ron Conroe]

the world is changing boys and their is nothing we can do about it. state land is for everybody, and for you guys that say you would do this and do that, have fun in prison with bubba.

[dog]

I respect Joey as a hunter and fellow board member. If he did indeed leave because of a question he asked that that is fine. However, if every time you get offended in some way and remove yourself from the situation you are eventually going to run out of places to go, IMO. We are all adults and if you pose the question be prepared for some answers you may not like, that is just the way it is in EVERYTHING. All have different views, some have the same. Lots of good men and women have fought and died so we can say what we like whether offensive or not. I work in sales and I will tell you if I didn't grow to have thick skin in a hurry and learn not to take things so personal I would still be in my car somewhere crying and peeing my pants . Humans can and will be offensive in every situation, seems like some like to do it a lot more than others!!

not picking apart your post , i agree 100% but ,some of the people on this board said that he should have just picked up his dogs and moved to another spot , how is that any different , i will quote you again "IF EVERYTIME YOU GET OFFENDED IN SOME WAY AND REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE SITUATION YOU ARE EVENTUALLY GOING TO RUN OUT OF PLACES TO GO " i think that is exactly the point Joey was trying to make , you have to stand up for what you believe in because nobody else is going to do it for you ! i know that was the point i was trying to make ! i might not of used profanity at the guy but you can bet your butt he would have got an ear full , like i said before i have heard alot of crying on here about things so stupid , one was about a kid who went back to a spot on PUBLIC land that someone showed him and hunted without said hunter and most on here was ready to string him up ! im not stupid , most that was bashing Joey were the same ones who were bashing him for killing to many rabbits , sour grapes because either they have crappy spots to hunt and run or crappy dogs that cant run a rabbit in a good spot , how does these young kids say it ? DONT BE A HATER !

[Robbie F.]

I am so tired of this post. Those people had every right to shoot that stupid rabbit no matter how unethical it might seem. It was public land and they had just as much right to be there as anyone. If you do not want people hunting on top of you then freakin find some private land. You can't dictate where others hunt on public land no matter how big your ego is or how awesome you think you are. For those of you who imply that you would whoop someone over this that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. If you can't control your temper any better than that you probably shouldn't even own a gun. I hunt public land and I do not hunt on top of others but I have had it done to me and I just go with the flow. It is not my land and they bought their hunting license the same as I did. Even had someone shoot a rabbit in front of my dogs once. Did I like it? No it scared the crap out of me but I didn't make a stinkin fuss about it. I hope this stupid thread gets locked soon and Joey mans up and gets back on the board.

[dog]

but yet you keep coming back , if your tired of it quit reading it , i park my truck on a public street also but i better not catch someone sitting in it , just because its on public ground doesnt mean anybody else can use it anytime they want

[Robbie F.]

That analogy is stupid. They shot a rabbit that was as much theres as anyones. If someone is sitting in your truck that could be trespassing or something. You cannot give someone an ear full as you say for doing nothing wrong. Everyone would have as much right as you to park on that street and that is the point.

[little e kennels]

here in north carolina we call that breaking and entering of a motor vehicle which is a felony.