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I love Little Pack. My dogs are not great trial dogs but they do run rabbits. There are some little pack dogs (even champions) that can't actually jump and circle their own rabbit. I have also been in the woods with UKC champions and AKC champions that could not do this. UKC is the most crooked format I have ever ran (have not ran PP). All the AKC clubs here are "walkie-talkie" style hunts. Nothing wrong with that, just not my style. So my choice is LP.
I also agree with Jim that I have so much fun at these hunts! To me, that is what it is all about. I have spent many hours in the field with Jim and others, and have enjoyed every minute of it! I don't go expecting to win (good thing as I would be a disappointed man), I go to run with friends, old and new, and watch hounds work. I will continue to do this as long as I am able and can find somewhere to go.
As far as what Bev wrote, I agree. I let my subscription expire 2 months ago. There are just a few people they have to write about their personal hunts, which I enjoyed for the first year I read about the same thing over and over, but we need more coverage. This is an excellent opportunity to promote this registry and the sport of hunting with hounds. 700 hounds, must have been over 500 people. All of these people are spending money on dogs, registering dogs, entry fees, hotels, meals, beverages, entertainment, and would not hesitate to spend money on the magazine that covered this special weekend. If they do not want to use a regular issue up for this hunt, maybe they could do a special edition. It's not like we don't pay enough (Sport's Illustrated is just about as cheap). I don't know who we need to contact, but maybe there are a few of the editors that read this and will care enough to address the issues we have as beaglers and fans of the sport. I can't get off work to attend the hunt, but as I said, I am a fan of the sport and even asked a world hunt winner for his autograph once :roll: :lol: . Local high school news papers cover football games more in depth than a magazine that has exclusive rights to the biggest hunt of the year shows their readers. Maybe someone should say something. ;)
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Re: 2010 ARHA Little Pack World

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when we take pictures each year of the world hunt i send them into the rabbit hunter there is no charge for the pictures all i ask is they give us the recognition for taking the pictures then i get a phone call from someone whose picture who was left out of the magazine that upsets me because i take the pictures very seriously what even upsets me more is i send in pictures from the banquet and even some misc. pictures showing people having a good time at the hunt and none of these get printed as far as articles i am not a writer so someone else would need to write any articles about a particular hunt and btw none of the hunts have articles written about them with the amount of money the magazine should be making they should be able to send at least one person to report on these hunts they are not paying for the pictures they could at least pay a persons room and board to go and write about the different hunts

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The thing is.....it's history in the making. Every major event like that is tomorrow's beagling history. And nobody wrote it down? Maybe it's just my journalistic nature rearing its head, but I do know that everybody here is hungry for beagling history from 20, 30 60 years ago and longer. What are our kids and grandkids gonna get to read?

I thought about the suggestion that Erie Canal do the writeup. Then I thought, nawww. Not for this. Maybe the smaller club hunts, sure - the club should do it. But a hunt that involves every player in the entire organization -- every Little Pack club in attendance, hundreds of dogs and people...that shouldn't fall strictly to the hosting club. That's format-wide. Actually it's bigger than that. It's the Woodstock of Beagling. Besides, I've watched the club members orchestrate this trial -- the work they put in, the food they have to produce...the choreography involved with getting 35 casts of dogs out at once...they don't have time to fart, much less run around with a camera.

If this thread does just one thing -- gets a designated author lined up for next year, then we did something good. Meanwhile, my offer stands for the North American Beagle website. Even 4 months after the fact, if people want to send pictures and their own accounts of the event, I'll publish it on the site. Here's an example of what I do for the AKC SPO Nationals. Here's what's on my site:

http://www.northamericanbeagle.com/2010akcsponats.html

It also appears on the AKC website in their Beagle Field Trial Event Spotlight page:

http://www.akc.org/events/field_trials/ ... onal/2010/

And here's how it would list on the site:

http://www.northamericanbeagle.com/trialnews.html

Even though it's way after the fact, the offer still stands. Look how far back some of that reporting goes. People still look at it. :nod:

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Bev wrote:
Talk about kicking a man when he's down.
I musta missed this. Who kicked Whom when he was down?
This wasn't directed towards you, Bev. I just noticed that there were several that started putting down NKC/ARHA shortly after your first post. I was just defending MY favorite format!

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tinymwoods wrote:I love Little Pack. My dogs are not great trial dogs but they do run rabbits. There are some little pack dogs (even champions) that can't actually jump and circle their own rabbit. I have also been in the woods with UKC champions and AKC champions that could not do this. UKC is the most crooked format I have ever ran (have not ran PP) besides maybe PKC. All the AKC clubs here are "walkie-talkie" style hunts. Nothing wrong with that, just not ;)
Your little statement about UKC being crooked is BS. I have been to a lot of little Pack as well as UKC and there is no way you can convince me or anyone else of that crap.

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lol.

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barryc wrote:
tinymwoods wrote:I love Little Pack. My dogs are not great trial dogs but they do run rabbits. There are some little pack dogs (even champions) that can't actually jump and circle their own rabbit. I have also been in the woods with UKC champions and AKC champions that could not do this. UKC is the most crooked format I have ever ran (have not ran PP) besides maybe PKC. All the AKC clubs here are "walkie-talkie" style hunts. Nothing wrong with that, just not ;)
Your little statement about UKC being crooked is BS. I have been to a lot of little Pack as well as UKC and there is no way you can convince me or anyone else of that crap.
Sorry Barry, but I'm convinced and so are a lot of other trialers. If you don't believe me, go to the UKC website for verification.
Now I'm not one to put down any Registry because they all have their faults but I started my trialing career with UKC back in 1978 and believe me, I have seen it all.
As for Little pack, been doing it for several years now and can honestly say I've never felt like I've been cheated.
The key here is to find good honest clubs with good honest judges to trial at and sooner or later the crooked clubs will fold because of lack of entries.
Again, just what I know.

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So let me get this straight, people actually cheat at these things?
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Re: 2010 ARHA Little Pack World

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True Jim. I guess maybe the same can be said for UKC clubs as well. Maybe the ones I have been to were bad clubs with good 'ol boy judging. I am sure there are some good UKC clubs, but my experience with them is the handler holding the pencil is gonna stroke it in favor of his own dog. Not every judge, but way to many of them.
As far as UKC goes in promoting it's hunts, they are pretty good at it. If you go to the UKC sight and compare that to the ARHA sight, you wouldn't consider ARHA in the same leauge if you were new at this. I guess I opened a different can of worms by posted my opinion on different formats, but the fact remains we need, heck, ESPN 2 covering something this big. Again JMO and didn't mean to ruffle sensitive feathers.
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True Jim. I guess maybe the same can be said for UKC clubs as well. Maybe the ones I have been to were bad clubs with good 'ol boy judging. I am sure there are some good UKC clubs, but my experience with them is the handler holding the pencil is gonna stroke it in favor of his own dog. Not every judge, but way to many of them.
As far as UKC goes in promoting it's hunts, they are pretty good at it. If you go to the UKC sight and compare that to the ARHA sight, you wouldn't consider ARHA in the same leauge if you were new at this. I guess I opened a different can of worms by posted my opinion on different formats, but the fact remains we need, heck, ESPN 2 covering something this big. Again JMO and didn't mean to ruffle sensitive feathers.
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Re: 2010 ARHA Little Pack World

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bev. i really didn't know this was a sales pitch and if i might add a very good one. i kinda like the name of the magazine the rabbit hunter. didn't you guys have the chance to take this over at one time back a few years ago. i don't know all the particulars but i do remember having the american beagler before cause it had the arha hunt results and scheduled hunts in it. i could be wrong its been a while. i do think you bring up a valid point and that the organization should do something about it wether the host club writes something or someone of there choosing. i do think it should be a little packer true to the word and someone that somewhat knows the folks in the organization and the people. it may not be a bad idea for that chosen person to write about all the big five hunts. i do think the host clubs of state hunts should be able to handle a article on there on hunts. it well be interesting in the least to see if nkc does anything at all and if so what. :shock:
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